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Post by JR on Dec 8, 2009 12:56:01 GMT -6
It sounds like the Yankees are about to complete a big 3 way deal to get Curtis Granderson.
Tyler Kepner of the New York Times says the deal is "very close," and would be Austin Jackson, Coke, Scherzer, and Schlereth to the Tigers, Edwin Jackson and Kennedy to the D'Backs, and Granderson to the Yankees.
That's a great return for the Tigers if that's true. I'm not sure what the Diamondbacks are thinking, though. I'd much rather have Scherzer and Schlereth than Edwin "Career Year" Jackson and Ian Kennedy.
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Post by JR on Dec 8, 2009 15:33:18 GMT -6
One thought about the Diamondbacks making that trade, a lot of people, especially me, talk about how much we'd like to have a GM who is more modern thinking than Hendry.
Well the GM of the Diamondbacks, Josh Byrnes, is a guy straight out of the Red Sox front office. He's responsible for not only the Eric Byrnes contract but also now for trading one of his best young pitchers in Scherzer and another former first rounder for a guy in Edwin Jackson, who is simply coming off a career season and is about to get expensive in arbitration, and an unremarkable talent in Ian Kennedy coming off an injury.
It probably does go to show that just because someone comes out of a forward thinking, modern, and successful front office like the Red Sox doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be very forward thinking, smart, or successful when he gets a GM spot of his own.
Maybe Josh Byrnes knows something about the guys he's giving up and the guys he's getting in return that we don't. Maybe Scherzer's got a bad attitude, or Byrnes has really good scouting reports or information on Jackson where he's willing to make that swap.
But as for me, I wouldn't trade Scherzer straight up for the two pitchers the Diamondbacks got, much less including Schlereth on top of that. I'm certainly in no hurry to replace Hendry with someone like Byrnes after a trade like this, for sure.
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Post by brjones on Dec 8, 2009 18:17:21 GMT -6
The Granderson trade just doesn't make sense to me from multiple perspectives.
JR already pointed out the ridiculousness of trading Scherzer for Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy. That's a potential future ace who is already a good major league pitcher for a guy with half a season of good performance with four years of major league service under his belt and the next Sergio Mitre. Just a ridiculous deal unless the Diamondbacks know Scherzer's arm is about to fall off. And even then, you'd think they could find a better deal. I mean, they may have been able to build a deal around him for Halladay if his arm is healthy.
The Yankees got away without giving up much at all. They give up the previously mentioned future Sergio Mitre, a future David DeJesus/Coco Crisp/Melky Cabrera type centerfielder, and an average lefthanded reliever...surely the Cubs (or a dozen other teams) could have talked their way into the Yankees spot in that deal.
The deal makes a lot of sense for the Tigers if Scherzer is healthy. But again, I really have to question that with the Diamondbacks so willing to give him up. If there's some problem with Scherzer, the Tigers really didn't come away from the trade with nearly as much as they seemed to want a few days ago.
I expect that when the final deal is known, there will either be another significant player going to the Diamondback. Either that, or the Tigers take a look at Scherzer's medical records and call the whole thing off.
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Post by JR on Dec 8, 2009 21:30:07 GMT -6
...surely the Cubs (or a dozen other teams) could have talked their way into the Yankees spot in that deal.
I hadn't really thought of it from that perspective, but it seems like they very well could have. The Cubs could have given up, say, Vitters, Samardzija/Marshall, and Gaub, for instance.
It seems like either Samardzija or Marshall would have been preferable to an injured Ian Kennedy for the Diamondbacks. (Although then again, the Diamondbacks may have just been in love with getting an overrated Yankees prospect for some reason.)
I do wonder if the Cubs are being hamstrung by this Bradley business, though. It sounds like a lot of the things the Cubs are considering so far this offseason are contingent on clearing enough of Bradley's salary from the books. Like for instance, it doesn't seem like we're going to do anything with Cameron until we get Bradley moved. Even if Hendry would have been willing to work his way into the deal, he may not have felt he could do it until he knows how the Bradley trade is finally going to settle out.
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Post by JR on Dec 9, 2009 13:30:24 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Dec 9, 2009 13:33:01 GMT -6
And good news for the Cubs, LaTroy Hawkins is about to ruin the Brewers' bullpen.
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Post by delmarfan on Feb 15, 2011 15:05:49 GMT -6
testing
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Post by Cactus on Feb 15, 2011 17:38:18 GMT -6
FORT MYERS, Fla. — Rich Hill is throwing sidearm exclusively now. It was something he and John Farrell talked about last year and he has decided to adopt it.
Hill is not dipping down as much as Mike Myers used, but he's clearly coming at hitters at a different angle and he believes that can make him an effective reliever.
"It's very natural to me, I feel comfortable doing it," he said.
So while instead of that sharp over-the-top curveball he once threw, he had what the pitchers call a "frisbee" curve.
Hill is working on bringing his fastball inside to the righthander and using a change-up, too. He doesn't want to be limited to being a lefty specialist.
As the Red Sox look to refine their bullpen, Hill could be an interesting weapon. Imagine the trouble a hitter would have after facing Jon Lester for seven innings and then have to deal with Hill coming in from a sidearm angle.
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Post by JR on Feb 16, 2011 13:52:16 GMT -6
If Ryan Howard is getting $25 million per year, Pujols shouldn't be settling for $19-21.
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Post by Bennett on Jan 22, 2016 8:33:14 GMT -6
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Post by AndyMacFAIL on Jan 22, 2016 23:59:09 GMT -6
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Post by curtone on Jan 23, 2016 8:57:28 GMT -6
It's the end of civilization as we know it.
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